Can Ingres Challenge Oracle for SAP

Since the OracAlum event with Terry Garnett, we've had a few meetings with Ingres folk. So, the speculation such as the following, that we picked up from our lens is of particular interest to us.

If companies like Ingres succeed, in the end there will not be any single, dominant database for SAP: not Oracle, not Ingres, not DB2, not SQL Server. Which is exactly what SAP would like to see. Too much dependence on a rival like Oracle makes SAP terribly nervous about its account control. Seeing that control split amongst a host of companies is exactly the divide-and-conquer strategy SAP would like to see in its battle royale against Oracle.end quotation
-- Can Oracle be unseated as a top SAP database? by Joshua Greenbaum, in

Something of even more interest is what was left out of Mr. Greenbaum's article: there was no mention of the Ingres RDBMS source code being released as open source. As wtih many of the other open source projects started in 2005, Ingres is still formulating its exact strategy, including final licensing plans, building its community and support options. Still, this is a very odd omission.

For those of us who have been around for more than a decade, we remember Ingres as one of the earliest and most powerful RDBMS of its time. It certainly hasn't stood still in technology in the intervening years, though neither has its intellectual sibling, PostgreSQL, nor its offshoots such as EnterpriseDB. This is of even more interest to us because of SAP's BI/DW/DM technologies. An Ingres/SAP partnership would certainly prove more of force in the BI marketplace than the MySQL/Business Objects partnership.

The next few years will be very interesting to watch. Will large, complex RDBMS software become commoditized as other infrastructure is becoming? Will Oracle become an application house, and possibly even make more of its own RDBMS technology F/OSS? I think that is a distinct possibility.

BTW, I tried leaving a comment at the SearchSAP site, but it's "create a handle" requirement is quite broken, preventing comments from being posted.

MySQL included in GSA Schedule

MySQL gets a push for government adaptation and use. Carahsoft Technology Corp was awarded a GSA Schedule that enables the company to provide MySQL's products and services. The five year GSA contract, GS-35F-0131R Schedule 70, enables the government "the ability to conveniently purchase and deploy MySQL database solutions."

Full Power Coming Capt'n

When I got home around 7:30 this evening, only half the house had power. You may not know this, but there are two legs coming into your home, each energrized with 120 volts. Even though my 79 year old father had already checked the circuit breakers, I did so again. None were tripped, so I reset them all. Still half power.

I had been through this 20 years before, when I lived one town North in Montara with Dan and Jill. That time, one of the connectors coming into the house had rusted out.

I phoned PG&E, and after a 20 minute wait (out of an estimated 11 - 20 minutes), spoke with Joan. An half-hour later, a service fellow came out, pulled the meter and confirmed that one leg was dead. So, he had to refer it to the line group. That was at 8:30 p.m.

All the line folk were out at Digg Canyon, as a tree came down and ripped out the power lines. Sounds familiar.

The lineman just left. No rusted out connectors this time. The wires going through the tree next to the fallen Holy Cypress, were burned out - fully on one leg and partially on the other. He had to go back to the yard to get wire. When he comes back, he'll cut the power, splice the lines, and then Full Power Will Be Restored. He thinks the young cypress was burning for most of the day, making it the new Holy Cypress.

As you can guess, my office including the DSL router, is on the energized leg. B)

Once again, PG&E is working through the night to keep the electrons flowing. I'm shutting down before the power is cut. Good night, all.

Open Source Communities Mudblood or Pureblood

Growing a great community is the hallmark of success for any open source project. The community needn't be large, but does need to have a core group (or individual) of developers, a dedicated group willing to test, fix bugs, and participate in the forums, and users who are willing to document bugs, problems, use cases and desired enhancements - also most likely, within the forums.

And so, the question: does community matter? Or, rather, does the pureblood development community matter?end quotation
-- Mudblood open source | January 31, 2006 08:22 AM | By Matt Asay

It doesn't matter whether or not the open source project is "pure" or commercialized in some fashion. What does matter is how the community is treated, and how potential community members perceive the project.

There are several ways in which an open source project can be commercialized.

  1. Dual licensing, one "commercial" and one "open source"
  2. "Up-sell" commercially licensed components, features or add-ons
  3. Support outside of the forums
  4. Implementation, customization and integration services
  5. Instructor-led, CBT or On-line Training
  6. Testing and certification of the project with other software and on various platforms to form "stacks"

There are thousands of successful pure-play open source projects, that have stayed "pure" and built great technologies and wonderful communities. There are many examples of successful "commercialized" open source projects that have wisely used business models and marketing to build good products, dedicated communities and profitable companies. The commercialized projects, while fewer in number, are generally better known with more deployments than their rivals; think of MySQL vs PostgreSQL. There are many tens of thousands of open source projects that never went beyond the planning stage, never built a community.

The key to a successful open source project, commercailized or not, is building a community. One does this through communication, transparency of intent, and putting the community at the center of the business/project.

Update 20060201 10h49: There is a post at NanoBlog that is somewhat related to this discussion: The Problem with Commercial Open Source Software

Chinese New Year Events Around the Bay Area

Happy Chinese New Year! Gung hay fat choy!

Here are some of the SF Bay Area events:

There may be more. If you know other events, drop a comment ...

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